Curse

supernoob · Jan 09, 2010, 07:19 PM // 19:19

My W/R is lvl 20 with 40 skill points to use. This is my main. I would like a build for farming but I play with the wife also and would really like to keep her alive a little =). Here are the skills I am currently using

Devastating Hammer
For Great Justice
Hammer Bash
Mighty Blow
Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support
Drunkin Master
Antidote Signet

My hammer stats are: req9 hammer mastery, 18-33 icy dmg, +7 armor vs elemental dmg, Inscription +15% dmg while health is above 50%

Stats:Strength 13, Tactics 8, Hammer Mastery 10, Wilderness Surival2 Marksman 1

After reading here on the boards how a good warrior dont have Endure Pain on there skill bar I replaced it with Antidote Signet due to the area im fighting in im using it alot, but have no idea what to replace it with as of yet.
I am looking to get Earthshaker soon if it is a better choice. Im really really new to GW and having a few issues figuring out tanking here and really tired going face first in every fight, but if you can point me in the right direction Ill be a better teammate for you in the future =).

Swath of Sorrow · Jan 09, 2010, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Lion's Comfort.. permanent fixture on my build...

I'd also suggest dumping Hammer bash.. you already have a knockdown in Devastating hammer.. why use a skill that dumps all your adrenaline (which powers your other 2 skills).. maybe pick up something like Yeti Smash instead... it'll damage more than 1 foe and not dump all your adrenaline..
of course I'm no hammer expert.... I run a Warrior's Endurance Axe build....

and why the attribute points in tactics?? no need for them... pump up the hammer line for more damage and seek out a max stats hammer....

HellScreamS · Jan 09, 2010, 07:57 PM // 19:57

I will assume you have access to all the campaigns? I don't play a warrior, I prefer rangers more, but, a smart choice for any type of weapon [sword/axe/hammer] would be Save Yourselves [kurzick allegiance skill] for pve as it grants around 80% damage reduction. Also, I've seen a lot of warriors run tryptophtan signet on their builds, which is one of my fave eotn skills.

Hope that helped a bit.

Also, there are a load of team farms, called speed clears, for elite areas, which imply manly-way, which is made by 100 blades warriors. Here's the build you might want to run for those speed clears.

Death's Charge
For Greater Justice
Hundred Blades
To The Limit
Whirlwind Attack
I Am Unstoppable
Air Of Superiority
Death's Retreat

swordmanship 12+1=1
strength 11+1
tactics 5
shadow arts 4

Warriors Death's Charge towards the target the MoP calls, using 100b and Whirlwind Attack as soon as possible.

Tenebrae · Jan 09, 2010, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Check sticky guide here in this warrior forum. For basic playing rules , get a max weapon , customize it , dont spread so much your att points and try not to use 10e skills with short recharges .

Winterclaw · Jan 09, 2010, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by supernoob

My W/R is lvl 20 with 40 skill points to use. This is my main. I would like a build for farming but I play with the wife also and would really like to keep her alive a little =).

1. If you are looking for a specific farming build, check this forum.
2. If you are trying to keep someone else on your team alive, bring save yourselves.
3. Drop points in tactics, wilderness survival, and marksmanship. If you aren't using that skill line, don't put points in it.
4. What is your wife playing and how does she play?
5. To get the mobs attention, have your wife and heros stand back, outside of the bubble on your radar. Pull mobs to you buy shooting them with a long bow but don't move around. Once they are around you, she and your heroes can move in.

supernoob · Jan 09, 2010, 08:50 PM // 20:50

I use Hammer bash right after my 2 other hammer skills and im at 0 adrenaline with them so im out nothing. but I see your point.

I have my points in tactics due to the fact I was told I had to have them as a warrior. Like I said im really new and that was all I needed for reasoning.

I do have access to all the games and I am slowly making my waythru the first one.
I am a little confused to what tryptophtan signet is. I cant seem to find a wiki reference to it. if you can help me out id be thankful.

Im going to do what I can to get the skills that Swath of Sorrow and HellScreamS have suggested so far. thank you two for taking time out of your day to point me in a direction =)

HellScreamS · Jan 09, 2010, 09:32 PM // 21:32

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tryptophan_Signet

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For 14...19 seconds, target foe and all adjacent foes move and attack 23...37% slower.

I misspelled it, no wonder you couldn't find it

Also, another viable option might be turning into warrior/dervish with strength and scythe mastery, throw aura of holy might, save yourselves and some increased attack speed skills and scythe attacks

scythe mastery 12
strength 12

Warrior's Endurance [e]
power attack
Eremite's Attack
Mystic Sweep
Asuran Scan
Aura of Holy Might
"Save Yourselves!"
Flail

as you play more and get better, you'll be able to come up with your own builds

supernoob · Jan 10, 2010, 04:59 AM // 04:59

Thanks for the links and info. Im going to trade out the points in the skills im not using. my wife is a Ele/Monk, she plays healer pretty good for me headed into everyfight screaming not in the face. Ill make sure to start pulling with the bubble.
Thank you for helping. im sure in a week or two when I have advanced in the game I will be able to get the skills needed to be a uber killing machine. but until then im going to get the skills I can now.

ac1inferno · Jan 10, 2010, 05:19 AM // 05:19

If using a hammer in PvE, it should be [[Earth Shaker] for its AoE kd:

[build prof=w/any hammer=12+1+1 strength=12+2][earth shaker][pulverizing smash][whirlwind attack][crude swing][flail][enraging charge][optional]["Save Yourselves!"][/build]

- [["For Great Justice!" (PvE)] for a heavy adrenal boost.
- [[Lion's Comfort] can provide a self heal.
- [[Mending Touch] To remove conditions from yourself.
- [[Rush] as a cancel for Flail.
- [[Belly Smash] to inflict blindness on foe and all adjacent foes for 10 seconds
- [["I Am The Strongest!"] for additional damage.
- [[Grasping Earth] for a manly aoe snare.
- [[Spear of Fury] to insta-charge all adrenalin skills.

MasterSasori · Jan 12, 2010, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

If using a hammer in PvE, it should be [[Earth Shaker] for its AoE kd:

[build prof=w/any hammer=12+1+1 strength=12+2][earth shaker][pulverizing smash][whirlwind attack][crude swing][flail][enraging charge][optional]["Save Yourselves!"][/build]

- [["For Great Justice!" (PvE)] for a heavy adrenal boost.
- [[Lion's Comfort] can provide a self heal.
- [[Mending Touch] To remove conditions from yourself.
- [[Rush] as a cancel for Flail.
- [[Belly Smash] to inflict blindness on foe and all adjacent foes for 10 seconds
- [["I Am The Strongest!"] for additional damage.
- [[Grasping Earth] for a manly aoe snare.
- [[Spear of Fury] to insta-charge all adrenalin skills.

I strongly agree with Earthshaker but have a few differing opinions.

First of all, I would leave healing to the heroes/henches instead of relying on Lion's Comfort. IMO, it's better to focus on what you do best, which is smashing faces in, and leave the healing to the healers/protters. To an extent, the same applies to condition removal.

Biefstuk · Jan 18, 2010, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Hello, I'm hope you guys won't mind I 'topic-jack' this one. But I see no point in making a new one isn't that old yet to bump ^^

It's been years I've been playing GW and now I started all over again. Now I have a Warrior/Ranger as well and with the setup I have now, I'm really having fun.

My build now:
- Hundred Blades
- Whirlwind Attack
- Sun and Moon Slash
- Feral Lunge
- Tiger's Fury
- For Great Justice!
- Comfort Animal
- Sunspear Rebirth Signet

Strength: 9
Sword Mastery: 12 + 1 (helm)
Beast Mastery: 9

I mainly do PvE. And the heroes that I now always use are a Searing Flames Ele, MM Necro and a SS Necro.

I must say I do nice damage when doing missions and such, but I feel I'm having a little gap in my build... I use all skills except the Feral Lunge. I thought adding the Bleed effect on mobs would be nice, but I'm using Sabway's MM and so the minions already add the Bleed-effect. I now don't have any clue what Beast Mastery I could use that would benefit my party. I really like my pet and I don't dispose her. I just want she also has her beneficial role in my party when I do missions and such.

What would you guys recommend of having instead the Feral Lunge and how's the rest of my build/attribute point division?
Also, you may have noticed I only have Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. I've never bought EoTN, because I wasn't playing GW anymore and the interest was gone. But now I'm having fun again in GW and I'm so getting EoTN (but begin February though, still have exams

) So I don't know much about any new skills there are in EoTN. Maybe there are some recommended skills that I should take note off for the future?

Anyhow, a big thanks to those who want to help me out

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 18, 2010, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by Biefstuk

It's been years I've been playing GW and now I started all over again. Now I have a Warrior/Ranger as well and with the setup I have now, I'm really having fun.

For the most part, /R is for fun. Not saying that you can't throw some pet skills onto a good start like you have, but as far as optimization goes, forget about it.

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My build now:
- Hundred Blades
- Whirlwind Attack
- Sun and Moon Slash

All good. Keep these.

- Feral Lunge
- Comfort Animal

As previously mentioned, pet skills are non-optimal.

- Tiger's Fury

Horrible IAS. It's good that you have one, but TF isn't really good for any bar. It's only 25%, compared to 33% from Warrior IAS's, it's expensive (10e compared to 4 adr for Flail or 5e for Frenzy or Drunken Master), and it requires a massive 12 BM just to be able to keep it up permanently. Flail is by far much better, and some people like Drunken Master (it's EotN though), but I haven't played around with it yet.

- For Great Justice!
- Sunspear Rebirth Signet

If you want the rez it's fine, though you're generally better off leaving rezzes to the midline; War bars are too tight to get rezzes on. Ask yourself whether you actually use it, and if you do would it have been better to just get a Necro or Rit with Flesh of my Flesh or Death Pact Signet?

FGJ is fine.

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Strength: 9
Sword Mastery: 12 + 1 (helm)
Beast Mastery: 9

With runes that would be:

Strength: 9 + 1
Sword Mastery: 12 + 1 + 1(helm)
Beast Mastery: 9 (not that you would be using this in an optimal situation)

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I mainly do PvE. And the heroes that I now always use are a Searing Flames Ele, MM Necro and a SS Necro.

*SF is more powerful if you have more people use it. Elemental damage it affected by armor, so it'll become less useful as you get into tougher areas. I wouldn't use it.
*MM is fine, but without knowing the build (there are a million variations), I can't really comment.
*SS = Spiteful Spirit? I find it a bit weak and annoying in general and run other things.

What I'm playing around with:

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Pv...Submit+Q uery
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Pv...Submit+Que ry
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Pv...o=Submit+Query

Keep in mind MoP isn't there, so you'll either need to run something different or play with a friend to get the most out of Hundred Blades.

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I must say I do nice damage when doing missions and such, but I feel I'm having a little gap in my build... I use all skills except the Feral Lunge. I thought adding the Bleed effect on mobs would be nice, but I'm using Sabway's MM and so the minions already add the Bleed-effect.

Don't run a skill just for Bleeding. Degen sucks. From another thread:

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Don't know if you actually understand why degen sucks in PvE, so I'll explain.

In PvE, killing things is easy. It's a matter of how quickly it can be done, as opposed to PvP where getting kills is a somewhat big deal. The thing with degen is that it needs time to get the damage out. For example, take a 24 second bleeding. If it lasts its full duration, it'll do 3*24*2=144 damage. However, any semi competent team will kill in 5 seconds or so, dropping the damage to 3*5*2=30. 30 damage out of one slot is pathetic; you're much better off just taking a +damage skill.

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I now don't have any clue what Beast Mastery I could use that would benefit my party. I really like my pet and I don't dispose her. I just want she also has her beneficial role in my party when I do missions and such.
What would you guys recommend of having instead the Feral Lunge and how's the rest of my build/attribute point division?

There isn't a lot you can do without comprimising yourself. Pets require a ton of attribute points to be semi-efficient (try at least 10 BM, ideally 12) and you can't really afford this, and so you can't run a pet effectively (not that pets are really effective in general) without sacrificing your damage. Honestly, you're going to have to choose between an optimal build, and a fun pet one. There are a few pet threads in this forum, look through those for ideas if you want.

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Also, you may have noticed I only have Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. I've never bought EoTN, because I wasn't playing GW anymore and the interest was gone. But now I'm having fun again in GW and I'm so getting EoTN (but begin February though, still have exams

) So I don't know much about any new skills are there are in EoTN. Maybe there are some recommended skills that I should take note off for the future?

Asuran Scan mostly. Drunken Master, Brawling Headbutt, a few others. Read the sticky article about PvE skills.

Biefstuk · Jan 18, 2010, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Thanks for your time!

This really helps me a lot! ^^

And about the Necro's, I'm using Sabway's build. I'm atm using a SF-ele because I used to have one, so I already have all the skills. Going for the 3 NN-build when I get EoTN ^^

Oh, and instead of the hard rez. What other skill would you recommend to fill up the gap?

RotteN · Jan 19, 2010, 12:01 AM // 00:01

get Flail instead of Tiger's Fury, and sub your Sunspear Rebirth Signet for Sprint (so you can cancel flail when you need to move somewhere fast).

I'm really not a fan of pet attacks on a warrior, you're better of taking an extra attack skill yourself: less attribute spread, more damage.

ac1inferno · Jan 19, 2010, 01:36 AM // 01:36

[build prof=W/Rang Swordsmanship=12+1+1 Strength=10+1 Beast=8][Hundred Blades][Whirlwind Attack][Sun and Moon Slash][Never Rampage Alone]["For Great Justice!"]["Save Yourselves!"][Comfort Animal][Optional][/build]